i usually say that. >>> u.s. trade secrets worth billions of dollars confidential government documents and key information about the canes infrastructure. >> these are all prime targets for cyber thieves but attorney general eric holder says the u.s. is fighting back, pushing for tougher cyber security laws, and sharing intelligence with hacked companies. >> and there are plenty of those. thousands of those companies being compromised right now. joining us from san francisco, nicole. good to see you. we talked about this before. you have a front page article in the "new york times" today. you also wrote about it before, how the "new york times" itself was hacked. this has become a very big deal for a lot of companies and the "new york times" disclosed this but a lot of companies don't. tell us why it's a dirty little secret. >> that's right. there are thousands of companies that we now know have been hacked and you only really hear about a few of them so we came forward and right after we came forward you saw the